🚀 He’s Actually Doing It: Kenn Jordan Moves from WordPress to PageMotor — Live and On the Record
WordPress to PageMotor Why It Matters
When Someone With 40 Years in Human Interface Design Makes a Platform Switch, the World Should Pay Attention
This isn’t another demo. This isn’t another lab update. Kenn Jordan — human interface design veteran, early PageMotor adopter, and returning CWTM guest — has made the call. He’s moving from WordPress to PageMotor, and tonight he explains exactly why that decision matters far beyond his own website.
Wednesday, May 27, 2026 8:00 – 9:00 PM EST Live at conversationswithtonymobley.com
The Journey So Far
Those who’ve been following Kenn’s appearances on Conversations with Tony Mobley have had a front-row seat to one of the most fascinating website technology journeys of 2026.
March 25 — Kenn brought PageMotor to the show for the first time, building Tony’s website concept live on air in a demonstration that stopped the chat in its tracks. The future of website creation arrived, unannounced, in real time.
April 29 — He returned with his working lab results — honest, practical, unvarnished assessment of what PageMotor delivers beyond the demo. What works, what surprised him, and what it told him about where websites are heading.
Tonight, May 27 — The decision is made. WordPress is out. PageMotor is in. And Kenn Jordan is here to tell you exactly why — and why it should matter to you.
This Is Not a Small Decision
WordPress powers over 40% of the websites on the internet. It has been the default choice for content creators, small businesses, churches, podcasters, educators, and organisations of every size for nearly two decades. Its ecosystem of themes, plugins, and developers is vast, mature, and deeply embedded in how the web works.
Walking away from that — deliberately, thoughtfully, after 40 years of professional experience in human interface design — is not something done lightly.
When Kenn Jordan moves from WordPress to PageMotor, he is making a professional statement backed by expertise, testing, and conviction.
Tonight you find out what he knows that most people don’t yet.
What We’ll Explore
The Decision
- What finally tipped the balance from consideration to commitment
- The honest assessment of WordPress’s strengths and its growing limitations
- What PageMotor does that WordPress simply cannot — and vice versa
- The role of AI-powered tools in making this transition not just possible but compelling
The Migration Reality
- What moving from WordPress to PageMotor actually involves in practice
- Content, design, and functionality — what transfers, what transforms, what gets left behind
- The learning curve: what Kenn expected versus what he found
- Timeline, effort, and what to plan for if you’re considering the same move
Why PageMotor, Why Now
- Chris Pearson’s vision for PageMotor and how it differs from traditional website builders
- The philosophy behind PageMotor’s approach to content, design, and performance
- How PageMotor handles the things that make WordPress feel heavy — updates, plugins, security, speed
- The AI integration that changes the creation and maintenance equation
The Broader Implications
- Is WordPress’s era of dominance ending — or simply maturing?
- What this shift means for the thousands of creators, churches, educators, and small businesses who’ve built on WordPress
- The democratisation of professional-quality websites through tools like PageMotor
- What Kenn’s decision signals about where the industry is heading
Advice for WordPress Users Watching
- Who should consider making this move — and who should wait
- The questions to ask before committing to any platform migration
- How to evaluate your current WordPress setup honestly
- What to do if you’re not ready to move but want to prepare
The Voice That Makes This Matter
Kenn Jordan doesn’t chase trends. With four decades of human interface design behind him, he’s seen technologies rise, plateau, and fade — and he’s developed a finely calibrated instinct for distinguishing genuine evolution from well-marketed noise.
His previous appearances on this show have been marked by exactly that quality: honest, experienced, practical assessment free from hype. When he says PageMotor is where he’s putting his website, that carries weight.
Tonight’s conversation is the culmination of months of testing, reflection, and professional judgement — delivered with the clarity and directness that CWTM viewers have come to expect from him.
Who Needs to Watch This
WordPress site owners wondering whether the platform still serves them as well as it once did
Content creators and podcasters managing websites that have grown complex and maintenance-heavy
Church media teams who built on WordPress and are curious about what comes next
Small business owners who want professional results without the plugin sprawl
Developers and designers keeping a close eye on the competitive landscape
Anyone who watched the March or April episodes and has been waiting to hear how the story ends — or begins
Because the most significant technology decisions aren’t made in moments of excitement. They’re made after months of honest, rigorous testing. And tonight, you get the results.
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“The best platform isn’t the most popular one. It’s the one that best serves what you’re actually trying to build.” — Kenn Jordan
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Welcome to my new adventure!
For those familiar with my work, you’ll know I’m no stranger to embracing new paths. And now, I’m excited to invite you on a journey of exploration and conversation.
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- Mastering Virtual Presence: Tips to shine in your next Zoom meeting.
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